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BigBarney
11-19-2003, 05:23 AM
I notice a link on the home page to MyIE2.

Can anybody give me some feedback on this? :doh:

Is MyIE2 worth downloading?
Is it change for changes sake or is it as good as advertised?

I am using IE6 at the moment and am happy with it but I am a downloading nut if I think I can improve my surfing experience.

Any comments will be most appreciated.

Cheers from Bonny (and sunny!) Scotland.

Brian.

Amie
11-19-2003, 05:58 AM
Barney

This was originally posted by LeRoi

All these IE "front ends" are just as vulnerable to IE security issues as IE itself.

If IE doesn't work neither will these so called alternative browsers because all use IE's engine to function. If something goes wrong with IE, it also goes wrong with MyIE2 Slimbrowser, Crazy Browser, Avant, etc.

If you want a more secure browser, one not subject to the design flaws and vulnerabilities of IE, you must get something that doesn't depend on IE's engine to function. Opera (ad supported if you don't buy it), Mozilla and Firebird (both free and free of any kind of spyware or adware) do not depend on IE's engine and are not subject to any of its' vulnerabilities.

and this by GolfProRM in the same thread;

Firebird is designed to come "out of the box" as a slimmed down, browser-only, speed machine. They've decided to leave the "extra features" out as not everybody wants/needs all the features. The beauty of Firebird is that each user can customize the browser to fit their own needs, and not everyone else's. If you expect a browser to have everything installed from the get-go, then don't use Firebird. As far as the coding goes, it's not exactly challenging, and is something that really only needs to be done once. If that's a problem, then use something else, as I don't see it changing on Mozilla's end anytime soon.

The problem I have with the other browsers is that they're just IE frontends... If you're trying to get away from IE, then using Avant/SlimBrowser/MyIE2 won't accomplish anything. If you don't mind using IE, then the added features of these browsers will work well.

The one browser that hasn't been mentioned here is Opera. It comes with everything you need right from the start, and is not an IE frontend. I personally don't care for it, but that doesn't mean it's not worth looking at. It's major negative is that the free version comes with ads (rather large too), and to get rid of them, it costs somewhere around $40. If you like it though, it's probably worth paying for. Again, I haven't used it much as I don't care for it, but as an alternative to IE (with no programming required), it may work well for you.

I use Firebird, and would never go back to IE or any browser based on it, though I believe Ranger Bob uses MyIE2 so will be able to give you his opinions on it.

Amie :amie:

ib6ub9
11-19-2003, 06:38 AM
FWIW. I use MyIE2 and have never had any problems with it, been using it for about 2 years. I've tried alot of different browers and have found MyIE2 to be the best one IMO out there.

Ranger Bob
11-19-2003, 08:24 AM
I am an alpha tester for My IE2 so I get to see all the new features being added to the software as they come out and test them. It does still use the IE engine at the present time. You will notice that many features from other browsers such as mouse gestures and hidden sidebars are a part of this software, plus a built in pop up blocker.

Simply put it is one of the best tabbed browsers available. It does exactly what it says it will do and can be customized to your own needs. The user community has written many addin plugins that provide many additional features that you can either add or not as you desire.

Jane
11-19-2003, 12:29 PM
BigBarney , I use MyIE2 for a long time and I love it . Lots of very useful features , easy to install . I'm sure that Firebird is also very good browser , although not that easy to install and understand (not for me ;) ) I'd like to have both... so I keep on trying :thLt:

oftentired
11-20-2003, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by Amie@Nov 19 2003, 04:58 AM
Barney

This was originally posted by LeRoi

All these IE "front ends" are just as vulnerable to IE security issues as IE itself.

If IE doesn't work neither will these so called alternative browsers because all use IE's engine to function. If something goes wrong with IE, it also goes wrong with MyIE2 Slimbrowser, Crazy Browser, Avant, etc.

If you want a more secure browser, one not subject to the design flaws and vulnerabilities of IE, you must get something that doesn't depend on IE's engine to function. Opera (ad supported if you don't buy it), Mozilla and Firebird (both free and free of any kind of spyware or adware) do not depend on IE's engine and are not subject to any of its' vulnerabilities.

and this by GolfProRM in the same thread;

Firebird is designed to come "out of the box" as a slimmed down, browser-only, speed machine. They've decided to leave the "extra features" out as not everybody wants/needs all the features. The beauty of Firebird is that each user can customize the browser to fit their own needs, and not everyone else's. If you expect a browser to have everything installed from the get-go, then don't use Firebird. As far as the coding goes, it's not exactly challenging, and is something that really only needs to be done once. If that's a problem, then use something else, as I don't see it changing on Mozilla's end anytime soon.

The problem I have with the other browsers is that they're just IE frontends... If you're trying to get away from IE, then using Avant/SlimBrowser/MyIE2 won't accomplish anything. If you don't mind using IE, then the added features of these browsers will work well.

The one browser that hasn't been mentioned here is Opera. It comes with everything you need right from the start, and is not an IE frontend. I personally don't care for it, but that doesn't mean it's not worth looking at. It's major negative is that the free version comes with ads (rather large too), and to get rid of them, it costs somewhere around $40. If you like it though, it's probably worth paying for. Again, I haven't used it much as I don't care for it, but as an alternative to IE (with no programming required), it may work well for you.

I use Firebird, and would never go back to IE or any browser based on it, though I believe Ranger Bob uses MyIE2 so will be able to give you his opinions on it.

Amie :amie:
The "IE engine" or "front end" phrase actually means that the browsers uses the associated dll's and support files used by IE. They do not use the IE exe itself.

Thus the quote is not entirely accurate. Vulnerabilities that exist because one is running the IE execution file do not transfer to the browsers that run from the IE engine. All other vulnerabilities will transfer.

The security settings one sets for IE will be the same for the browsers that run from the IE engine except where the other browsers may have code written to enhance them.

Given the situation where there are no IE problems to begin with. And given the situation where a person does not make use of the IE exe in any way. And given the situation where a person makes use of an alternative browser that makes use of the IE engine. This situation does result in a more stable system and fewer (if any) problems with IE.

I do agree that for the very best chance of not being vulnerable one should use a non-IE based browser. However, if one makes judicious use of security tools and common sense there is no reason why an alternative browser based on the IE engine cannot be used in a secure and safe manner.

Now I'm going to go find Firebird. I'm a tad curious. :)

Wrong Number
11-20-2003, 12:03 PM
Why don't you just download MyIE2 and try it!
Also download Firebird and try it.
Which one works best for you, use it.
If hard drive space gets to full, delete the one/s you don't use.
I haveOE6, MyIE2, Opera, Firebird and use them all.

Wrong #

mfarley
11-20-2003, 12:14 PM
Well I use Galeon so I am way out there! :)

When I ran Windows I fell in love with MyIE2 and agree with oftentired. However, since I started running Firebird I have fallen in love with it as well as it's ability to about:config which is a really nice feature.

The point of all of this is there are so many options and all of them are better then Internet Explorer. Also, I believe MyIE2 does not require an install and there is a version of Firebird that does not either. So just download them, try them out, and if you like them both run them both! :) I use Firebird, Mozilla, Galeon, and Konqueror.

amb141
11-20-2003, 12:26 PM
Mike and all

My understanding is that Galeon is the Eunuchs version of K-Meleon (http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/) which is another Windows browser based on the gecko (Mozilla) rendering engine and which (although I have settled on Mozilla Firebird 0.7 as my default browser) I highly recommend for its speed and flexibility.

alan

mfarley
11-20-2003, 12:36 PM
Well, since Eunichs is apparently supposed to be a comedic name replacement for Unix (which I do not use) and Galeon is the product of the GNOME GUI which is for Linux (which I do use) then your facts are a bit inaccurate. :) <Just had to throw in a little jab after the eunich joke>

However, K-meleon was a fantastic browser for Windows when I used it and Galeon is even better. It still has some issues as I do not like the way it handles tabs, but it renders like lightning.

amb141
11-20-2003, 01:10 PM
Mike

The joke comes from the (true) story of the guy on an airplane who was asked in polite chit-chat by his seatmate where he was headed to and he replied "to a Unix convention." And you can imagine the rest.

>>I do not like the way it handles tabs....<<

Yep, my only complaint about K-Meleon and the main reason I settled on Mozilla Firebird (which renders nearly as fast.)

alan

oftentired
11-20-2003, 02:28 PM
Downloaded and installed the ready to go Firebird. Very fast browser. A bit lite on user options. I'll keep it handy for bad connection days. Default remains Slimbrowser which I find uses too much of my available resources yet has a slew of user options which I rather like. :)

mfarley
11-20-2003, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by oftentired@Nov 20 2003, 01:28 PM
Downloaded and installed the ready to go Firebird. Very fast browser. A bit lite on user options. I'll keep it handy for bad connection days. Default remains Slimbrowser which I find uses too much of my available resources yet has a slew of user options which I rather like. :)
>> A bit lite on user options.<<

You should check out the plugins as they are bountiful. I believe that they made the browser fairly lite and gives the individual the choice on what to install after so the browser is trully customizable to your needs.

oftentired
11-20-2003, 05:06 PM
Just found them a few minutes ago. Nice set of them. I'm specifically looking for something to enable MSN chat. Seems MSN thinks Firebird is Netscape. However the netscape download to enable the MSN chat looks for the actual Netscape program which I don't have. And, I might, I don't want.